Nora Bateson “The Changemaker’s Trap”
Ep. 162
Playing for Team Human today, filmmaker, writer, educator, and systems thinker, Nora Bateson.
Bateson and Rushkoff interrogate our moment of global crisis to challenge the very systems that drive human behavior and thought. How do changemaker’s end up falling trap to the solutions they seek to create? Further, they explore why quantifying humans as part of a system reduces people to abstract figures rather than the complex beings they truly are. “There’s something about this possibility of recognizing living complexity in ourselves and each other that becomes this untold possibility,” Bateson says.
In his opening monologue, Rushkoff discusses why Team Human’s greatest strength is not in a specific physical space, but in the form of deeply honest, human engagement.
Bateson’s book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles, is now available:
https://www.triarchypress.net/small-arcs.html
This conversation was recorded live on May 22, 2020, as part of a (RE)Humans live Zoom call. You can learn more about (RE)Humans here:
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Credits
Hosted by Douglas Rushkoff
Produced by Josh Chapdelaine
Audio Edited & Mixed by Luke Robert Mason
Our community manager is Michael Bass.
Music by Fugazi (On this Episode you heard “Foreman’s Dog” in the intro – thanks to the kindness of the band and Dischord Records.)
Special thanks to Stephen Bartolomei.
Team Human is a Production of the Laboratory for Digital Humanism at Queens College.